Tuesday, June 23, 2009

NY Velocity, behind the back conversations

So, I was going to write about some new tires I just bought, but then I stumbled over the Velocity Nation, where I surprised to see a semi-heated -- if brief -- discussion of... me.

Now, I'll admit that from time to time I've posted a link to my blog on Velocity Nation's discussion forum. After all, anyone who races a bike in the New York City-metro area, and beyond, reads the site. Since I'm always trying to drum up more traffic on this blog, posting links on popular websites seems like an obvious tactic.

BUT, it was not me who posted a link to yesterday's discussion of the things I learned at Sunday's Housatonic Hills Road Race. (Yesterday's post, has, by the way, generated a large volume of comments and I can't wait to see the traffic report tomorrow!)

This was the first reference. While I'm not sure exactly what it means, it seems like little more than a benign call see some interesting discussion over at my blog. Fine:

"Check the comments here for this week's edition of Pro eye for the new Cat 2 guy:" -- posted on the forum this morning at 11:40, but I'll take it as flattering that someone decided my post was interesting enough to warrant transmittal to a larger audience.

As for the other comments, all I can say is that amateur bike racers (ones who do well, anyway), seem to talk a fine line. Ride poorly and you're branded as "sketchy," "dangerous," or worse, no matter how good your results. Ride well, on the other hand, get results, and you get the opposite treatment -- you're a sandbagger and should upgrade immediately, go pick on someone your own size.

At least one of the comments about me over on NYVelocity, on the other hand, are of a brand I have not previously experienced; questioning my right to ride in the elite peloton, on the grounds that I've never won a race. (And before I go on, there were other poster who duly protested this point, backing me up, and I am very appreciative of that!)

Well, first of all, I have won a race. In fact, I've won two sanctioned races and one unsanctioned. Granted, two of those were back in 2006, but still, a win is a win. But that's neither here nor there. More to the point, I had reached the point in my career, and I'm quite proud of this, at which I was finishing in the top ten in nearly every road race I entered.

I started racing bikes because I liked the challenge, and although getting top results as a cat 3 was certainly still a challenge, I was qualified to pursue more difficult challenges, so it seemed right to elevate my game.

While I am certainly still adjusting to the greater speeds and longer distances of the elite races, I hope to be a quick study.

Another poster, who said he enjoyed my blog, also commented that I'm "a bit out of touch with the real world." I guess I'd like to know what this means. I tend to think that working two regular jobs, in addition to various freelance gigs, while maintaining a rigorous training/racing program has given me an up-close-and-personal view of the "real world," but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this persons just means that I'm out of touch with New York City, which, sadly, is true.

I have been accused of seeing things with an optimism for the future. Perhaps that's what the poster meant -- I can only hope. In any event, I would truly like to know. If you're out there, please chime in -- and feel free to post your name.

So, the coffee shop is closing, and I'm going to go home, even though I do have more to say on this topic.

Even if reading the comments on NYVelocity felt a like walking into a room right in the middle of someone's behind-your-back conversation, I am heartened to be reminded that there ARE people out there who read this blog, and appear to enjoy it. As always, thanks for reading!

P.S. The aforementioned tires are Vittoria Open Corsa CXs. They're tires. The ride like tires.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Andrew -

Your upgrade was well earned and you should not feel the need to justify your upgrade. People commenting on that other site are just trying to cause trouble and clearly do not know the upgrade rules. You cant win in the NYC racing scene. If you stayed a Cat3 until you won a race you would be called a sandbagger. Keep working hard and riding strong. Your readers look forward to tracking your progress at the next level.

Best regards,
Jesse

Nathaniel Ward said...

Those dweezels who post on NYVelocity don't deserve you, Andrew. Seriously, what a pit of snakes that forum is! Every time I read a thread there, I swear off the site for good, until I forget how much hate there is...ugh. Don't pay them any attention.

Andrew J. Bernstein said...

The problem is that it's so damn entertaining!

Anonymous said...

how is NY velocity behind anyone's back? it may be anonymous, but it's a public forum that anyone can read.

Andrew J. Bernstein said...

anon 9:35:

My point was that many people wouldn't say to someone's face the things that they say there.

Anonymous said...

Awesome. Anon defending an anon troll posting over on NYVC. Just for that I am going to post anon.

Anonymous said...

What makes it so entertaining is that I'm sure most of the haters are cat 4's that talk like they're Pro's!

Scott Cole said...

Pay no mind to the NYVC chumps Bernie, pretty soon you're gonna be printing out the results sheet when you win and putting a copy of it in every one of their mailboxes!

Anonymous said...

Andrew, don't let the bastards get you down. Finishing Maltese in a break last year and being off the front of some other race for like 50 miles more than qualifies you i would think.

look to "racing" (me, not you...you will certainly be in contention) the 123s with you this weekend in Prospect Park.

-your old BVF teammate Jonathan.

Andrew J. Bernstein said...

Hey Jonathan, good to hear from you! Don't worry, I'm not letting those guys get me down.

Looking forward to seeing you and the gang on Sunday. I'll probably also be riding in the park on Saturday if you're around.

Anonymous said...

yes - i can ride later in the day, post on our board before you go to the park...
JP